government assures us that the nsa does not gather data except it is little comfort. seeing who guards the guardians, i prefer the guardian. he is no supporter of edward snowden, but that we had to take blind faith that these secret courts are doing a good job. that is not quite enough. >> one of the horrifying aspects that they are looking at is that people can become conditioned to think that everything they do and think is being watched. that has major ethical and philosophical implications for the way people feel and the way people view themselves, it is a dangerous direction things are going. >> an addendum to that which is incredibly important, we have been finding fragments of information about private security companies and the government's fairly loosely monitored. the oversight question is where the outrage should be focused. snowden worked for a company, not for the government. i think there is one thing we should draw from this, we should learn more about the companies in the shadows. >> thank you for joining us. stay seated, before we go, we will say hell